MSE/Thumbpulling debunked

Disclaimer: Read the thumbpulling and palate expander threads first.

You want to expand your palate to get wider lips? Brutal cope.


Like mentioned in the intro, there isn't a big correlation between the facial width, palate width and even less the intercommissure width.

Here another great example on why MSE/MARPE are both dogshit.



Do these results look aesthetic in the first place?

Fuck ofcourse no, just descend yourself hard and be assymetrical for the rest of your life with a big nose theory.


What should we do instead?

Extremely simple: Get a custom mouth widening appliance. This is proven to widen your mouth, unlike cope like palate expanding.